Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106

03/17/2022 11:30 AM House WAYS & MEANS

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11:37:06 AM Start
11:38:52 AM Presentation(s): Oil and Gas Update; Global Markets, Geopolitics, High Prices, and Other Influences on State Revenue and Production
01:04:58 PM Adjourn
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+ Presentation: Oil and Gas Update: Global Markets, TELECONFERENCED
Geopolitics, High Prices, and other Influences on
State Revenue and Production by Dan Stickel,
Chief Economist, Department of Revenue;
Deputy Commissioner John Crowther, Department of
Natural Resources; Larry Persily, Oil and Gas
Analyst and former Deputy Commissioner of Revenue
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
           HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS                                                                          
                         March 17, 2022                                                                                         
                           11:37 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ivy Spohnholz, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Adam Wool, Vice Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                                   
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative David Eastman                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  OIL AND GAS UPDATE; GLOBAL MARKETS~                                                                           
GEOPOLITICS~ HIGH PRICES~ AND OTHER INFLUENCES ON STATE REVENUE                                                                 
AND PRODUCTION                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DAN STICKEL, Chief Economist                                                                                                    
Tax Division                                                                                                                    
Department of Revenue                                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint, titled "Spring 2022                                                               
Forecast and High Oil Prices Presentation."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CORRI FEIGE, Commissioner                                                                                                       
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided introductory remarks during the                                                                 
oil and gas update presentation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JOHN CROWTHER, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Land and Natural Resources                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Provided a PowerPoint  presentation, titled                                                             
"Oil &  Gas: Global Markets  and Geopolitics and  Their Influence                                                               
on State Production."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
LARRY PERSILY, Oil and Gas Analyst                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Provided a PowerPoint  presentation, titled                                                             
"Hope  of  'normal' oil  and  gas  markets  was premature  -  for                                                               
multiple reasons, and it's getting a lot more complicated."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:37:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR IVY  SPOHNHOLZ called the  House Special Committee  on Ways                                                             
and  Means  meeting  to  order at  11:37  a.m.    Representatives                                                               
Schrage, Prax, and  Spohnholz were present at the  call to order.                                                               
Representatives  Story,  Josephson,  and   Wool  arrived  as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):     Oil   and  Gas   Update;  Global   Markets,                                                               
Geopolitics, High  prices, and Other Influences  on State Revenue                                                               
and Production                                                                                                                  
     PRESENTATION(S):  Oil and Gas Update; Global Markets,                                                                  
Geopolitics, High prices, and Other Influences on State Revenue                                                             
                         and Production                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
11:38:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ announced  that the only order  of business would                                                               
be  the Oil  and Gas  Update; Global  Markets, Geopolitics,  High                                                               
prices,  and Other  Influences on  State  Revenue and  Production                                                               
presentation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:39:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAN STICKEL,  Chief Economist, Department of  Revenue, provided a                                                               
PowerPoint presentation,  titled "Spring  2022 Forecast  and High                                                               
Oil  Prices  Presentation"  [hard   copy  included  in  committee                                                               
packet].  He went through the agenda  and moved on to slide 4 and                                                               
discussed the key  changes between the Fall 2021  and the current                                                               
Spring 2022  forecasts.  Oil  prices increased by almost  $16 per                                                               
barrel for  fiscal year 2022  (FY 22) and $30  for FY 23.   Those                                                               
reflect tightened  supply and demand  fundamentals in  the market                                                               
and the impacts of the  recent uncertainty concerning the Russian                                                               
invasion  of Ukraine.   The  total unrestricted  revenue forecast                                                               
increased by  $1.2 billion for FY  22 and by $2.4  billion for FY                                                               
23, which was  driven by the increased oil price  outlook.  Total                                                               
state  revenue,  slide  5, comes  from  four  different  sources,                                                               
including  investments, federal  receipts,  petroleum, and  other                                                               
non-petroleum revenues.   Within those four  categories there are                                                               
four levels of distinction as  far as restrictions in the budget.                                                               
Unrestricted General  Funds can be appropriated  for any purpose.                                                               
Designated  general funds  (DGF)  are  technically available  for                                                               
appropriation but are customarily  appropriated for some specific                                                               
purposes.    Other  restricted revenues  are  revenues  that  are                                                               
specifically  dedicated and  cannot be  appropriated in  any way,                                                               
for example,  the constitutionally dedicated portion  of revenues                                                               
that  goes  towards  the  permanent fund  dividend  (PFD).    All                                                               
federal revenues have  provisions around how those  must be used.                                                               
He  said FY  21  holds the  record for  the  largest total  state                                                               
revenue  in state  history at  $29.8 billion.   It  is forecasted                                                               
that FY  22 will have  just under $16  billion and just  over $16                                                               
billion for  FY 23.   A near 30  percent return on  the permanent                                                               
fund recorded for FY 21, as  well as one-time stimulus money from                                                               
the  federal government,  explains  why FY  21 was  substantially                                                               
higher than any other year.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:49:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL explained to Representative  Prax that the designated                                                               
petroleum  revenue  represents  primarily  the  transfer  to  the                                                               
permanent fund above and beyond  the constitutionally mandated 25                                                               
percent.   The  other  restricted revenue  for petroleum  revenue                                                               
reflects settlements  to the constitutional budget  reserve (CBR)                                                               
fund as  well as the  constitutional dedication of  royalties for                                                               
the  permanent  fund  and  school  fund.    The  final  piece  of                                                               
petroleum  revenue   under  federal  revenue   represents  shared                                                               
revenues  from the  federal government  for  bonuses, rents,  and                                                               
royalties in the National Petroleum Reserve.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:50:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL  mentioned that  there are four  ways the  state gets                                                               
revenue from  oil and gas:   property tax, corporate  income tax,                                                               
production tax,  and royalties.   The property  tax is  levied on                                                               
all oil and gas property produced in  the state and tends to be a                                                               
stable revenue source  generating a little over  $100 million per                                                               
year  to   the  state;   over  $400   million  is   generated  by                                                               
municipalities from oil  and gas property.   The corporate income                                                               
tax  is levied  by  the state  on  qualifying corporations  doing                                                               
business in the  state.  This applies to C  corporations and is a                                                               
tax on  profits.  The Oil  and Gas Production Tax  is expected to                                                               
be  the   largest  source  of   Oil  and  Gas  Revenue   for  the                                                               
Unrestricted General Fund.  This  is the state's severance tax on                                                               
oil  and gas;  it's a  net-profits tax  with a  gross-minimum tax                                                               
floor  and  should exceed  $2.5  billion  of  revenue in  FY  23.                                                               
Royalties are expected to bring  in $1.3 billion this fiscal year                                                               
and $1.4 billion next fiscal year.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:53:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL  continued to address oil  prices, through historical                                                               
graphs using  nominal daily  prices.   Throughout the  1990s, the                                                               
price of oil  was relatively low compared to  more recent prices.                                                               
From  2004-2008  oil  prices  were  increasing  until  collapsing                                                               
during the 2008  recession.  The shale oil boom  in 2014 resolved                                                               
supply and demand imbalances which  led to an oversupplied market                                                               
and  caused a  decrease in  prices.   Prices increased  from then                                                               
until the pandemic  hit.  In response to  Representative Prax, he                                                               
mentioned that there is a  higher long-term price.  Volatility is                                                               
high and expected to increase but it is difficult to predict.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:00:38 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ highlighted  the present-day  volatility in  the                                                               
price of oil.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:01:46 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL showed slide 9, which  shows a more recent graph with                                                               
oil  prices  from  2020  to  present day.    He  highlighted  the                                                               
infamous  low  price  of  negative   $2.77  on  April  20,  2020.                                                               
Following the price collapse, supply  and demand responded to low                                                               
oil  prices, the  Organization of  Petroleum Exporting  Countries                                                               
(OPEC) agreed to production cuts.   Demand rebounded where demand                                                               
outstripped supply which resulted in higher oil prices.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
12:04:20 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL  moved to slide 10,  which shows an even  more recent                                                               
graph with oil prices from Feb 15,  2020, to March 14, 2022.  The                                                               
Russian invasion  of Ukraine has led  to a lot of  uncertainty in                                                               
the market  and restrictions  on Russian crude  oil.   Oil prices                                                               
peaked  at  $125.44  per  barrel  on March  8,  2022.    Forecast                                                               
finalizations occurred shortly after the peak.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
12:05:45 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.   STICKEL  showed   through  the   U.S.  Energy   Information                                                               
Administration (EIA)  Short-Term Energy  Outlook from  March 2022                                                               
that markets  were in balance  before the COVID-19  pandemic hit,                                                               
then  demand plummeted.   Supply  was slower  to respond  to than                                                               
demand  due to  the  pandemic shutdowns.    Since the  recession,                                                               
supply  has been  slower to  respond to  rising demand  and there                                                               
have  been several  quarters where  reserves were  drawn.   These                                                               
federal energy outlooks are generated monthly through EIA.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:08:05 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL moved  to slide 12, which shows changes  to the long-                                                               
term price  forecast which expects $16  per barrel for FY  22 and                                                               
$30 per  barrel for FY  23.  These  numbers are presented  in the                                                               
context of high volatility.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
12:10:09 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL directed attention to  slide 14 and explained the Oil                                                               
Volatility Index  (OVIX), which  uses a statistical  formula that                                                               
uses futures market  prices for oil and options  market prices to                                                               
come  up with  a  statistical  measure for  the  range of  future                                                               
prices  for  the  next  month,  and  the  likelihood  of  various                                                               
pricing.   Supply  and geopolitical  issues have  been historical                                                               
drivers of volatility.  The  biggest spikes in volatility were at                                                               
the start of the COVID-19 pandemic  and at each of the subsequent                                                               
COVID-19 variants.  The bottom line  is that there is a period of                                                               
heightened volatility around oil prices.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
12:15:27 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL discussed that slide  15 looks at volatility based on                                                               
options market expectations  and gives the 10th,  25th, 75th, and                                                               
90th percentiles.  For example, in  FY 22, the 10th percentile of                                                               
prices  would be  about $81  per barrel  and the  90th percentile                                                               
would be  about $110 per  barrel.  For FY  23 the range  would be                                                               
$63 dollars in  the 10th percentile and $163 dollars  in the 90th                                                               
percentile.  There  is a 20 percent chance that  oil prices in FY                                                               
23 could  average less  than $63  or more  than $163  dollars per                                                               
barrel; therefore,  there is high  volatility and  uncertainty in                                                               
the market at present.   In response to Representative Spohnholz,                                                               
he said the average  price of oil would need to  be about $114 to                                                               
reach  the forecast  for  Spring 2022.   There  is  a 50  percent                                                               
likelihood  that  the  forecast  would  be  reached,  but  it  is                                                               
difficult to  quantify.  In  response to Representative  Prax, he                                                               
said the  department has  considered locking  in a  price through                                                               
the  futures market;  hedging would  require  a statutory  change                                                               
through  the  legislature.   Slide  16  shows that  the  official                                                               
forecast  was $101  dollars  per barrel,  which  results in  just                                                               
under $5 billion in Unrestricted  General Fund Revenue before the                                                               
Permanent Fund transfer.   Any increase or  decrease could result                                                               
in an  $80-85 million change  in the unrestricted revenue  for FY                                                               
23.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:24:03 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CORRI  FEIGE,  Commissioner,  Department  of  Natural  Resources,                                                               
provided introductory remarks and  mentioned an energy conference                                                               
she  attended   in  which  there   were  discussions   on  recent                                                               
geopolitical  influences on  the  volatility of  the oil  market.                                                               
She  pointed  to underinvestment  of  the  oil and  gas  industry                                                               
globally as a cause of tight supply in the last 5-10 years.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
12:27:00 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  CROWTHER,   Deputy  Commissioner,  Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources  (DNR),  delivered  a PowerPoint  presentation,  titled                                                               
"Oil &  Gas: Global Markets  and Geopolitics and  Their Influence                                                               
on State  Production" [hard copy  included in  committee packet].                                                               
Regional markets  may not  reflect the global  market but  can be                                                               
impacted  by it.   Slide  2 shows  the 10  largest producers  and                                                               
share of  world oil production  in 2020.   Slide 3 shows  the net                                                               
petroleum trade in  the United States.  As the  U.S. has become a                                                               
crude oil  producer, trade  has decreased.   Because  of refining                                                               
capacity in  the U.S., petroleum products  have been increasingly                                                               
exported.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:31:05 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER said that slide  4 shows pricing indexes and metrics                                                               
that  are used  for different  crude  oil qualities  in the  U.S.                                                               
Slide  5  shows  U.S.  domestic  oil  production,  which  had  an                                                               
increase in production  over the last 10 years.   Slide 5 shows a                                                               
graph from the U.S. Energy  Information Administration.  In 2010,                                                               
there  was  a  significant  import   of  oil  from  Russia;  this                                                               
dramatically dropped to an absolute low  in 2014.  There has been                                                               
an increase since  then in Russian oil imports  driven by various                                                               
factors.   Even  as there  have been  significant changes  in oil                                                               
price, Russian imports have not been influenced by price.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:36:18 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FEIGE  offered clarification by noting  that imports                                                               
from  Russian crude  required  a  blend stock  due  to the  grade                                                               
needed  for the  refining process.   When  Texas refineries  came                                                               
online, Russian  crude was offset  because shale oil tends  to be                                                               
light, and  the Russian crude imported  at the time had  the same                                                               
character.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:37:14 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  resumed on  slide 7 and  defined spare  capacity as                                                               
the  ability  to  bring  production  up  quickly  and  keep  that                                                               
production  level  for  a protracted  period,  usually  90  days.                                                               
Spare capacity  takes time and money  to build and maintain.   It                                                               
takes spare  capacity to ramp  up production quickly.   Companies                                                               
typically maintain  little or  no spare capacity.   They  work to                                                               
produce  the most  they can  economically  produce and,  together                                                               
with state law and regulations,  support the long-term health and                                                               
productivity of  the reservoir  in the  process.   Globally, most                                                               
spare  capacity  is maintained  by  nation  states for  strategic                                                               
reasons.    Spare  capacity   is  different  from  prospectivity.                                                               
Alaska    continues   to    have   significant    potential   and                                                               
prospectivity.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
12:38:33 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  described on slide  8 that producers  are generally                                                               
known to  be producing  all resources  considered economic  at an                                                               
optimal  pace.    Higher  oil  prices  make  marginally  economic                                                               
barrels  feasible  to produce.    Ramping  up production  may  be                                                               
possible  on different  timelines  with  considerations like  new                                                               
wells in existing fields, repairing  broken wells, and processing                                                               
improvements to de-bottleneck  facilities that enable production.                                                               
Permitting timelines  impact project timelines.   Medium to long-                                                               
term  levers include  permitting approval  timelines, legislation                                                               
under debate,  and funding.   The commissioner has  advocated for                                                               
financing projects in Alaska.   Historically, projects have taken                                                               
from  a few  years to  decades  to come  online after  discovery,                                                               
depending  on  numerous  factors such  as  commercial  alignment,                                                               
market and economic conditions, funding, and permitting.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER,  in response to Representative  Spohnholz, referred                                                               
to  the  Willow  and  Pikka   projects  as  two  near-term  large                                                               
projects.  Both  projects are at advanced stages  and have unique                                                               
factors affecting their  progress to full development.   There is                                                               
an  active miscellaneous  land use  permit  application from  Oil                                                               
Search   Alaska  Santos,   the  project   developer  for   Pikka.                                                               
Transportation issues will be dealt  with among Oil Search Alaska                                                               
and ConocoPhillips.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:44:09 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LARRY  PERSILY,  Oil  and  Gas  Analyst,  provided  a  PowerPoint                                                               
presentation, titled  "Hope of 'normal'  oil and gas  markets was                                                               
premature -  for multiple reasons,  -and it's getting a  lot more                                                               
complicated"  [hard  copy included  in  committee  packet].   Mr.                                                               
Persily summarized slide  2 and said that  before Russia attacked                                                               
Ukraine,  prices  were  increasing   due  to  production  quotas.                                                               
Russia's production  capacity is  short.   In January,  OPEC Plus                                                               
was falling short of its targets  by 600,000 barrels a day, which                                                               
drove up  prices before the war.   It turns out  that last year's                                                               
so-called "missing barrels" were consumed.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:47:04 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PERSILY,  responding to  Representative Spohnholz,  said that                                                               
Canada   can   accelerate    production   faster   than   Alaska.                                                               
Geopolitics  plays  a  factor  in pricing  and  production.    He                                                               
referenced a  quote from Helima  Croft, head of  global commodity                                                               
strategy,  who said,  "The White  House has  embarked on  the oil                                                               
equivalent of a scavenger hunt."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
12:52:20 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PERSILY said  that Russia used to export about  40 percent of                                                               
their production.   It is unclear what their exports  will be now                                                               
that  the war  in  Ukraine  is underway.    Exports  to the  U.S.                                                               
averaged 200,000 barrels a day last year.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:53:21 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PERSILY showed  slide 12  which details  geographic refinery                                                               
constraints  such as  a lack  of pipeline  capacity to  move U.S.                                                               
crude oil  to the West  Coast, and limitations of  shipping crude                                                               
from the Gulf Coast to the West  Coast.  Roughly half of the West                                                               
Coast refinery input comes from  imports from Canada, Iraq, Saudi                                                               
Arabia, and  Brazil.   The U.S. Gulf  Coast refinery  capacity is                                                               
tuned for  heavier crude  rather than  lighter U.S.  shale crude,                                                               
which  is often  exported.   Hawai'i  gets its  oil from  Russia.                                                               
Self-imposed  sanctions   have  been  adopted  by   ship  owners,                                                               
insurers,  and refiners.   Meanwhile,  Russia is  looking towards                                                               
China and  India as  the best  options for buying  cargo.   For a                                                               
refinery to retool  to process different types of  oil would take                                                               
extra time and money.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
12:56:11 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PERSILY  said that Russia  previously supplied as much  as 40                                                               
percent of  Europe's natural gas.   Coal is making a  comeback in                                                               
Germany and China.   Europe is more committed  to solving climate                                                               
change than the  United States, but there is  still an imperative                                                               
for energy.   Analysts call coal a "safety valve"  to meet Europe                                                               
and  Asia's power  needs.   Germany  decided to  build its  first                                                               
liquified natural gas (LNG) terminal,  which will be completed in                                                               
two years.  Spain has spare  capacity at its import terminals but                                                               
lacks pipeline capacity to move more gas to central Europe.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:00:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PERSILY said  that  in the  United States,  due  to low  oil                                                               
prices in  the past, there  have been more than  600 bankruptcies                                                               
totaling more  than $321 billion in  debt.  The United  States is                                                               
now the  largest LNG  exporter in  the world  and became  thus in                                                               
just six years  after constructing seven LNG  ports by converting                                                               
unused import  terminals into export  terminals.  In  response to                                                               
Representative  Spohnholz,  he  mentioned that  high  prices  are                                                               
referred to as "demand destruction."   For example, if gas is too                                                               
expensive, people  may drive less.   This accelerates  the debate                                                               
between relying on Russia to  increase supply versus swapping for                                                               
renewables.   He  mentioned  that most  analysts  agree that  oil                                                               
prices are likely  to exist between $90-100 based  on the current                                                               
situation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:02:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  further noted the  volatility of oil  prices and                                                               
provided closing remarks.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:04:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Ways and  Means meeting  was adjourned  at                                                               
1:05 p.m.